PakistanTalk Forum

 

Go Back   PakistanTalk Forums > Defence & Geostrategy > Strategic issues


Strategic issues Forum to discuss Pakistan's strategic Issues related to geostrategy, war on terror and general geo-political and military planning.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-22-2010, 03:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
Neo
Administrator
Lt. General
 
Neo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 8,958
Thanks: 518
Thanked 448 Times in 372 Posts
Default US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan


By Kim Ghattas
BBC News, Washington

Click the image to open in full size.
US officials said Pakistan needed further, specific assistance for the fight against militants The US is set to announce a significant package of military and security aid to Pakistan on Friday, the final day of the latest US-Pakistan strategic talks.

The multi-year aid package will be "no-strings-attached", officials say.

But the Obama administration will make clear it expects Islamabad to do more in the fight against Islamic militants.

Since 2005, Pakistan has received more than $1bn (£636.4m) of military aid a year from the US - and received close to $2bn for the last fiscal year.

US officials said Pakistan needed further, specific assistance for the fight against militants and needed to know it could rely on the US in the long term.

The aid, expected to be close to $2bn, will be contingent on approval by the US Congress and will pay for equipment needed in counter-insurgency and counter-terror operations, among other things.

'Reducing threats to US'

Vali Nasr, a senior adviser on Pakistan and Afghanistan at the state department, told the BBC that the battle against Pakistani militants had expanded over the last year, but the summer's monsoon floods had undone a lot of the Pakistani army's efforts.

"We believe that we have made a great deal of progress and we believe that that progress has reduced the threat to our homeland, while not eliminating it," Richard Holbrooke, the US special representative on Afghanistan and Pakistan, said this week.

But officials in Washington have also been frustrated at the limits of Pakistan's desire and ability to help.

A White House report sent to congress earlier this month laments the Pakistani army's inability to hold territory it has seized from insurgents, a failure that means gains are likely to be short-lived.

"The Pakistan military continued to avoid military engagements that would put it in direct conflict with Afghan Taliban or al-Qaeda's forces in North Waziristan," the report said, referring to the region in north-western Pakistan seen as a Taliban and al-Qaeda haven.

"This is as much a political choice as it is a reflection of an under-resourced military prioritising its targets."

The report also says the civilian leadership does not have the trust of the people and faces "broad-based" challenges that have "the potential to impact the stability of the government".

Cross-border attack

Mr Nasr said the solution was not to withdraw US investment from Pakistan but rather to help the Pakistani government and military strengthen the country's institutions.

The Pakistani government is in fact crucial to that strategy, and this can make Washington vulnerable, and a crisis in ties between the two countries last month has highlighted the fine line the Obama administration must walk as it cajoles and pressures its ally.

After at least two Pakistani troops were killed in a Nato cross-border attack in September, Islamabad was furious and blocked the main transit route for military supplies to Afghanistan until it received a formal apology.

Dozens of lorries laden with fuel and supplies were subsequently destroyed by militants in Pakistan while en route to the frontier.

The US-Pakistan strategic dialogue, which started last year, is designed to build trust and keep the conversation going between the two countries, not just about security but about a wide range of issues from healthcare to education and water projects.

'Not enough sticks'

The new five-year security assistance package, expected to be announced on Friday, is meant to complement a $7.5bn package of civilian aid over five years that was approved by the US in 2009.

It is all meant to reduce Islamic militants' allure and to win Pakistanis' hearts.

"We want to expand the security relationship that Pakistan and the US had in the past under the Bush period to be much broader," Mr Nasr said, "to involve things that also matter to Pakistanis and impacts their daily lives.

"A relationship means that we don't focus only things that are important to us but also things that are important to Pakistanis. Average Pakistanis have to see value in their engagement with the US before they subscribe to that relationship."

But some question the Obama administration's approach, saying there are too many carrots and not enough sticks, and not enough conditions attached to the carrots.

In a piece published in the New York Times this week, the former ambassador to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, urged Washington to "offer Islamabad a stark choice between positive incentives and negative consequences".

BBC News - US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan
Neo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Neo For This Useful Post:
Zaki (10-22-2010)
Old 10-22-2010, 09:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
Major General
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,277
Thanks: 85
Thanked 92 Times in 73 Posts
Default Re: US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

But some question the Obama administration's approach, saying there are too many carrots and not enough sticks, and not enough conditions attached to the carrots.

This is the key point. Obama should remember his election pledge to use carrot and stick with Pakistan.

The more the stick, the better it will work.
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don’t..

जननी जन्मभूमि च स्वर्गात अपि गरीयसी (The mother and motherland are greater than heaven)
vinod2070 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2010, 10:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
Lt. Colonel
 
A1Kaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 901
Thanks: 23
Thanked 47 Times in 38 Posts
Default Re: US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

Lol it's so funny how this news irritates some people.

By the way I am reading this money is actually reimbursement money some if not all, but is misleading because it's being called "aid" which it really may not be...
A1Kaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2010, 09:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
Major General
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,277
Thanks: 85
Thanked 92 Times in 73 Posts
Default Re: US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

So the Islamic Republic is taking "aid" from the Great Satan that is supposedly killing Muslims all over the place indiscriminately!

What does that make the Islamic republic? A paid agent of the Great Satan?
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don’t..

जननी जन्मभूमि च स्वर्गात अपि गरीयसी (The mother and motherland are greater than heaven)
vinod2070 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2010, 01:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
Lt. Colonel
 
A1Kaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 901
Thanks: 23
Thanked 47 Times in 38 Posts
Default Re: US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

Iran gov calls USA great Satan not Pakistan besides foreign policy should be conducted pragmatically.
A1Kaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 09:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
Major General
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,277
Thanks: 85
Thanked 92 Times in 73 Posts
Default Re: US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

Ah, again the same pragmatism!

What can't be done in the name of this entity! I guess the USA killing all these people and destroying the Muslim world can be also described as pragmatism. Same for Israel's actions. Pakistan's genocide in Bangladesh was also pragmatic?

So the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is accepting blood money of Afghans and it's own tribals in the name of pragmatism?
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don’t..

जननी जन्मभूमि च स्वर्गात अपि गरीयसी (The mother and motherland are greater than heaven)
vinod2070 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 07:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
Lt. Colonel
 
A1Kaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 901
Thanks: 23
Thanked 47 Times in 38 Posts
Default Re: US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

The money is reimbursement money (much of it).

As far as your question goes,

They're accepting reimbursement, aid, payment money for services Pakistan offers to US and NATO.

Also, pragmatism isn't always pretty. You can quote me on that
A1Kaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 07:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
Lt. Colonel
 
A1Kaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 901
Thanks: 23
Thanked 47 Times in 38 Posts
Default Re: US to announce major military aid package for Pakistan

There is an old saying I heard from a classmate when I was in the third grade.

"If you can't beat them, join them."

Honestly, that is what Pakistan is doing right now. That also seems to be the pragmatic option at this time.
A1Kaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 - Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.