ISI gives evidence of CIA involment in Pakistan

[HasanG20]

ISLAMABAD: CIA chief Leon Panetta on Friday held talks in Pakistan and found agreement on intelligence cooperation as President Barack Obama nears a decision on troop deployments to Afghanistan, Islamabad said.

Panetta held talks with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Washington's policy review in Afghanistan, said the premier's office in a brief statement.

It was his second visit since taking office this year and comes a week after US National Security Adviser James Jones held similar talks in Pakistan.

Panetta and Gilani agreed on 'operational functioning between the two militaries and intelligence agencies' to eliminate the terror threat, it said.

The US embassy was not immediately reachable for comment.

Obama has said he is weeks away from unveiling a long-awaited war strategy review in neighbouring Afghanistan, where commanders have warned the conflict will be lost without an extra 40,000 US troops.

He has reportedly increased pressure on Islamabad to fight not just militants who attack within Pakistan, but those using Pakistan as a base from which to fight the Kabul government and Western troops in Afghanistan.

Some Pakistani officials have expressed concern that any major US troop increase in Afghanistan could push Taliban fighters into Pakistan.

Yet Islamabad has warned against any precipitous US troop drawdown in case Afghan fighters pour across the border, exacerbating the rising security problems Pakistan has faced since the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan.

Earlier on Friday, a US missile attack killed eight people, including foreign militants, in Pakistan's lawless tribal belt on the Afghan border, the second such attack in two days, Pakistani security officials said.

The US military does not, as a rule, confirm drone attacks, but its armed forces and the Central Intelligence Agency operating in Afghanistan are the only forces that deploy pilotless drones in the region.

Last Sunday, a US newspaper reported that the CIA provides hundreds of millions of dollars to Pakistan's premier intelligence agency, including payments for the capture or killing of wanted militants.

The CIA's financial support to the Inter-Services Intelligence agency has reportedly prompted debate within the US government, as the ISI is suspected of providing support for Taliban and other Islamist extremists in Afghanistan. –AFP

source - DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Gilani holds talks with CIA chief


Evidences of CIA involvement in Pak presented to US

ISLAMABAD : Pakistan on Friday presented evidences of CIA involvement in the country to Director US Central Intelligence Agency Leon Panetta, Aaj News reported.

According to the channel, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Chief Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha presented the evidences to Leon Panetta, who called on him during his two-day visit to Islamabad.

The channel, quoted the sources as saying that ISI chief Shuja Pasha has made it clear to Leon Panetta that CIA personnel were assisting the terrorism in Pakistan

source AAJ TV : Pakistan Ki Awaz

[ferrari]

It seems Pakistan is on evidence giving binge when there is none.

[HasanG20]

Originally Posted by ferrari

It seems Pakistan is on evidence giving binge when there is none.

If you don't have something constructive to say than dont say anything everyone is on the wrong path except Indians the master race happy now ?

[Jana]

Originally Posted by ferrari

It seems Pakistan is on evidence giving binge when there is none.

Atleast we do not waste paper on sending over 11,000 pages dossier again and again

[macrocks]

Atleast we do not waste paper on sending over 11,000 pages dossier again and again

You guys present the most idiotic evidences that has now made Pak as a whining country on International stage. You guys are preventing Mullah omar, your Army men are involved in plotting terror plans, and you guys are giving evidence to CIA who's billions you guys want. Funny isn't it ?.

[Neo]

Your men helping terrorists, Shuja tells CIA chief

ISLAMABAD (November 21 2009): Pakistan on Friday expressed its serious concerns over the US Central Intelligence Agency's interference in the country's internal matters, including its covert support to some terrorists and the terrorist activities they carried out over the past few weeks or months and presented to the visiting CIA chief some proof in this regard.

Sources said that during the meeting of CIA chief Leon E. Panetta, who is on an unannounced visit to Pakistan, Director General Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha said that CIA officials were assisting the terrorist elements who were carrying out terror attacks on Pakistan and asked him to shun such practices.

Sources said that ISI chief told him that Pakistani intelligence agencies had incriminating evidence about the CIA officials' involvement in providing assistance to perpetrators of some terrorist activities within Pakistan, which had negative impact on Pakistan's efforts towards war on terror.

The sources said that ISI chief also told the CIA top official that Pakistan was fully committed to flushing out terrorists from Pakistani soil, adding that there is no reality about the presence of any "Quetta Shura" and the presence of al Qaeda or Taliban leadership as perceived by the US.

Sources further said the CIA chief also met President Zardari. The President emphasised that US must fully share its Afghan policy with Pakistan and that his country's input should also be included in the new policy. It has also been learnt that the President also underlined that the US policy towards Afghanistan must take into account Pakistan's concerns relating to the possible surge of US and Isaf forces in Afghanistan, which may entail negative implications for the situation in Balochistan.

The CIA chief also met Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani. The Prime Minister conveyed to the US that its new Afghan policy should not disturb the regional balance in South Asia. Gilani emphasised that the US must fully share the contours of its roadmap for Afghanistan and ensure incorporation of Pakistan's input in its new policy. In the meeting, the US Afghan policy review also came under discussion.

He stressed that the new Afghan policy of US government should not disturb the regional balance in South Asia. Gilani said it was imperative to remove misgivings, build trust and seek to align the respective strategic concepts of both Pakistan and the US to steadfastly move forward in strategic partnership between the two countries.

The Prime Minister stressed the need for close co-ordination between the intelligence agencies of both sides to effectively counter the prevalent misperceptions in the relationship. The Director of US Central Intelligence Agency assured the Prime Minister that the US was fully conscious of Pakistan's pivotal role in the war against terrorism and restoration of stability in Afghanistan.

"The US considers Pakistan a strategic partner with whom it wants to build a long-term and sustained relationship even beyond the co-operation in countering the militancy and extremism," he added. He agreed with the Prime Minister that operational functioning between the two militaries and intelligence agencies was the need of the hour against the threat of terrorism.

[Rafael]

Originally Posted by macrocks

You guys present the most idiotic evidences that has now made Pak as a whining country on International stage. You guys are preventing Mullah omar, your Army men are involved in plotting terror plans, and you guys are giving evidence to CIA who's billions you guys want. Funny isn't it ?.

Backup your claim with sources or Shutup!!!

[vinod2070]

^^ Have you not read of many of your military men joining AQ and TTP? The reports were posted in this forum and published in several Pakistani newspapers.

Also the fact that there is a fifth column within the military that is sympathetic to terrorists and is facilitating attacks like that on GHQ, the general who was killed i Islamabad etc.

[Rafael]

Originally Posted by vinod2070

^^ Have you not read of many of your military men joining AQ and TTP? The reports were posted in this forum and published in several Pakistani newspapers.

Also the fact that there is a fifth column within the military that is sympathetic to terrorists and is facilitating attacks like that on GHQ, the general who was killed i Islamabad etc.

Oh yeah, we are protecting mullah omer so that US finds a reason to invade Pakistan?

If we go by your logic than india too has a "fifth column" within its military with the likes of Colonel Prohit, USA has there share of these men who kill their own countrymen and fellow soldiers.One or two individual cases here and there doesn't make that a "state policy", now does it? We are fully aware of what is what and trying to clear that junk.

[vinod2070]

OK. I think you made your point.

I do think that in other places, it is the odd bad apple while you have a bit bigger problem.

Of course those fifth column are not a state policy. The support to or at least not pursuing the Afghan Taliban could well be.

BTW, it seems there were hundreds of desertions in PA during the SWAT operations. If you want I can give you the details.

There is a problem in PA about the operations in tribal areas.