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Old 02-09-2011, 09:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Nuclear experts say Pakistan may be building 4th plutonium reactor


By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 9, 2011; 8:33 PM


Pakistan has begun work on what independent experts say appears to be a fourth plutonium-producing reactor at the country's Khushab nuclear complex, a move that could signal a further escalation in Pakistan's arms race with arch-rival India.


Commercial satellite photographs taken last month show major new construction at Khushab, a key nuclear installation southwest of Islamabad that generates plutonium for Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

The new structure is roughly the same size and shape as two plutonium-producing heavy-water reactors located a few hundreds yards away in the heavily guarded compound, according to an analysis by the Institute for Science and International Security, a Washington organization that studies nuclear proliferation.

The building "appears to be a fourth reactor" for producing weapons-grade plutonium, according to the ISIS analysis, a copy of which was provided to The Washington Post. ISIS said the facility would substantially expand Islamabad's nuclear capacity by allowing it to produce "more plutonium for nuclear bombs."

Pakistani officials in Washington, asked about a fourth reactor at Khushab, declined to comment. A U.S. counterproliferation official who reviewed the images declined to comment on the ISIS analysis but said that U.S. intelligence agencies have been monitoring Khushab for years and are "aware of this facility."

The new reactor, if verified, would signal yet another step forward in Pakistan's ambitious effort to modernize and expand its nuclear arsenal. A Washington Post article last month reported that Pakistan's stockpile was estimated to have grown to more than 100 deployed weapons and to have surpassed that of India.

The rapid growth of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal has fueled fears of an escalating arms race in one of the world's most troubled regions. India and Pakistan, which have fought three wars in 60 years, have launched initiatives in recent years to modernize their nuclear warheads and delivery systems.

"Another reactor just hammers the point that Pakistan is determined to make a lot of plutonium for nuclear weapons, frankly far more than they need or is healthy for the region and the world," said ISIS President David Albright, who co-authored the report with researcher Paul Brannan.

The first heavy-water reactor at Khushab became operational in 1996, and a second reactor was inaugurated about a year ago. The two together can generate an estimated 22 kilograms of plutonium a year, enough for up to four bombs. A third reactor is under construction near the second one.

Satellite images provided by ISIS and the commercial imagery firm DigitalGlobe show work underway on a 16,000-square-foot structure that bears a striking resemblance to the second and third reactors. There was no construction at the site when a satellite took photographs of the area in November, Albright said.

Olli Heinonen, former director of safeguards at the International Atomic Energy Agency, said the new reactor was "worrying, given the unstable situation there."

"Commissioning of additional plutonium-production reactors and further construction of reprocessing capabilities signify that Pakistan may even be developing second-strike capabilities," said Heinonen, now a senior fellow at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.

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Just what Pakistan needs more nuclear bombs.
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Well, this is a country steeped in paranoia and conspiracy theories. They think the world is out to get them and the nukes are their only saviors.
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Well, this is a country steeped in paranoia and conspiracy theories. They think the world is out to get them and the nukes are their only saviors.
Now where does it state that ''our nukes are our only saviors''???

Or is someone buying too many publications by Hoodbhoy to believe that this new reactor (if we were to build one, satellite photos are not ''that'' accurate) couldnt serve another purpose...... to manufacture fissile plutonium??
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Now where does it state that ''our nukes are our only saviors''???
When did I say that "it" states this?

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Or is someone buying too many publications by Hoodbhoy to believe that this new reactor (if we were to build one, satellite photos are not ''that'' accurate) couldnt serve another purpose...... to manufacture fissile plutonium??
What would be that for?
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Well, this is a country steeped in paranoia and conspiracy theories. They think the world is out to get them and the nukes are their only saviors.
Mr to be Super Power: Granted Pakistan is chasing conspiracy theories and hence rumors for this build up.

But could you please expalin as to what India’s problem is? Isn’t the India who started all this by first exploding nuclear bomb and currently supposed to have approximately 80 to 90 nuclear bombs. India is four times larger than Pakistan and far more superior in conventional weapons and, hence, the need for Pakistan to have more bombs than India to balance the inequality.

Have you read the news about India spending more than $100 billions on defense in the next few years plus acquistion of many more atomic reactors? I hope you have an asnswer as to what India is going do with all this hardware while majority of her population lives below the poverty level? I think this is one of the extreme examples of paranoia.

Read the following:

“Last week 100,000 jobseekers traveled to a small northern Indian town for a recruitment fair that reveals much about the country's economic boom. On offer was the chance of joining the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP). A paltry 416 jobs were available as washer man, barbers, water carriers and other lowly positions with a starting salary of 5,200 rupees ($115) a month.”

Based on per capita, $1000 to $1,200 for India whereas the developed world it about $20,000, India is barely a middle-income country less super power. My humble suggestion to you would be to get your own house in order before pointing fingers at Pakistan. Your money could be better spent working on the civil infrastructure and to eradicate poverty before calling yourself as future super power.

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Mr to be Super Power: Granted Pakistan is chasing conspiracy theories and hence rumors for this build up.
Good. That is what this topic is about.

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But could you please expalin as to what India’s problem is? Isn’t the India who started all this by first exploding nuclear bomb and currently supposed to have approximately 80 to 90 nuclear bombs. India is four times larger than Pakistan and far more superior in conventional weapons and, hence, the need for Pakistan to have more bombs than India to balance the inequality.
What are those nukes for!

You have one tenth (and the ratio is only increasing) of our economy and you want to chase the elusive military parity. Your economy and resources obviously don't permit that and so you become tool of some outside powers. All this for what? Just give a thought.

The fact is, you can't have more nukes than India if India decides that. The desire for a nuke deterrent is one thing, this huge buildup is quite another. It may lead to India escalating her own production and a useless nuke race that benefits no one.

What inequality balance you are talking of? How do nukes help you reduce any equality?

Fact is, there is no equality to start with. You should only think of equaling the Afghans, Tajiks, Kazaks, Kyrgyzs and so forth. After all, you are supposed to be Central Asians, not South Asians.

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Have you read the news about India spending more than $100 billions on defense in the next few years plus acquistion of many more atomic reactors?
That is just a consequence of the size of our economy and defense spending. The atomic reactors are all civilian.

The buildup is not specific to Pakistan. We don't need to spend that kind of money for countering Pakistan.

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I hope you have an asnswer as to what India is going do with all this hardware while majority of her population lives below the poverty level? I think this is one of the extreme examples of paranoia.
I agree that poverty alleviation should be a major priority for India. Hundreds of millions have come out of poverty in the last two decades (irrespective of what you want to believe) and the next 10 years of the current growth would reduce the poverty rates to single digits.

But then, we are not going begging everywhere for aid while building up the nukes (and not our economy) unlike you.

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“Last week 100,000 jobseekers traveled to a small northern Indian town for a recruitment fair that reveals much about the country's economic boom. On offer was the chance of joining the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP). A paltry 416 jobs were available as washer man, barbers, water carriers and other lowly positions with a starting salary of 5,200 rupees ($115) a month.”

Based on per capita, $1000 to $1,200 for India whereas the developed world it about $20,000, India is barely a middle-income country less super power. My humble suggestion to you would be to get your own house in order before pointing fingers at Pakistan. Your money could be better spent working on the civil infrastructure and to eradicate poverty before calling yourself as future super power.

Click the image to open in full size.

Cheers!
This is off topic. I can post similar pictures for Pakistan and it means nothing. There is poverty in India and many people prefer government jobs even though it is easier to earn more money in the private sector.
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BTW, I have read frequently of Taliban recruiting from the poor in Pakistan for suicide bombings and paying their families. The recruitment is from the same pool and from the same villages as done by the army.

Pakistanis taking some kind of sick pleasure in supposed Indian poverty and ignoring their own economic conditions, poverty and lack of power and other infrastructure is laughable.
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When did I say that "it" states this?
So in other words you base your replies on your personal ''hunches'' not declared statements? tsk tsk V......



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What would be that for?
Lol, you seriously expect me to believe you dont know what that can used for? Lol

Pull the other leg V, I know, you know!
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So in other words you base your replies on your personal ''hunches'' not declared statements? tsk tsk V......
It's not hunches either. It's based on the statements of your leaders and your media and many Pakistanis in various fora.

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Lol, you seriously expect me to believe you dont know what that can used for? Lol

Pull the other leg V, I know, you know!
I would seriously want to know what you think are the other uses of "fissile plutonium" (I don't know of any other kind BTW).
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