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Old 01-28-2010, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Afghan neighbours support Taliban reconciliation plan


* Istanbul summit calls for support to process of reconciliation and reintegration in a way that is ‘Afghan-led and driven’


ISTANBUL: Afghanistan’s neighbours and Turkey on Tuesday backed President Hamid Karzai’s plan to offer incentives to Taliban fighters in a bid to make them lay down arms, according to a joint statement issued after a summit here.

“We ... support the Afghan national process of reconciliation and reintegration in accordance with the constitution of Afghanistan in a way that is Afghan-led and driven,” said the statement. “We reaffirm our strong commitment to the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and national unity of Afghanistan,” it said.

The talks were attended by Karzai, his counterparts from Pakistan and Turkey and senior officials from Iran, China, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan.

“Those Taliban who were not part of terrorist networks or Al Qaeda are the sons of the Afghan soil,” Karzai told reporters. “They are thousands and thousands and thousands, and they have to be reintegrated.”

The strategy, based on money and job offers to Taliban to encourage them to lay down arms, is expected to win Western support at a major conference in London on Thursday.

Addressing the summit – called the ‘Istanbul Summit on Friendship and Cooperation in the Heart of Asia’ – President Asif Ali Zardari called on the international community to intensify efforts to eliminate terrorism and, if required, undertake a review of the anti-terror fight to “learn proper lessons”. He said the international community must take stock of what was lacking in the war on terror.

“The international community must do more and help the countries of the region to overcome this menace,” said Zardari, and observed that dialogue could also be employed effectively for this purpose. “Pakistan’s democratic government has evolved a policy of dialogue, development and deterrence to face the prevailing situation,” he said, adding that the policy could be more successful with the aid of the international community – which should also provide greater market access for and improve trade with the region. He said while there were 2,000 madrassas in Pakistan, “not all preach hatred”.

Addressing the summit, Karzai said, “We need to win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people to find a solution to the Afghan problem ... peace and stability in Afghanistan can be achieved through the support of the international community.”

While the international community supported the process of reconciliation in Afghanistan, representatives observed no neighbouring country is immune from the situation in that conflict-ridden country.

The conference was aimed at finding ways to contain the spillover effect of the conflict in Afghanistan.

British Foreign Secretary David Miliband said in an interview with APP that the international community was helping Pakistan find a solution to the Afghan problem and “bounce back” from the damage done to its economy in the war on terror.

Next Friends of Democratic Pakistan meeting, he said, “we will look into what more help we could extend to Pakistan”. agencies
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Pakistan seeks role as mediator in possible Taliban-Afghanistan peace talks


By Pamela Constable
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, January 28, 2010

LAHORE, PAKISTAN -- Pakistan, which once sponsored Taliban forces but turned against them under American pressure in 2001, now hopes to play a role as a broker in proposed negotiations among Taliban leaders and the Afghan government, with support from the United States.

As leaders of 60 countries meet in London on Thursday to discuss how to help Afghanistan stop its downward spiral into instability, the possibilities for reconciliation and talks with both Taliban leaders and foot soldiers will top the agenda.

Until recently, Pakistan had been on hostile terms with the neighboring government in Kabul and had sought to distance itself from the problems of insurgency across the border, while struggling to curb a homegrown Taliban movement that has carried out dozens of bombings and suicide attacks in Pakistan in the past several years.

Now, however, Pakistani officials have taken a sudden interest in promoting peace in Afghanistan, a change analysts attribute to a combination of self-interest and fear. Pakistan, they say, hopes a power-sharing arrangement in Kabul that includes the Taliban would be friendlier to its interests; and it worries that if the Afghan conflict drags on, its domestic extremist problem will spin out of control.

But analysts said any overt mediation role by the Pakistani government could backfire for several reasons, including deep mistrust among Afghan leaders, unpredictable reactions by Pakistani militants, Taliban resentment of pressure from its former backers and unrealistic Pakistani expectations of Western gratitude.

"The crisis in Pakistan has created a big change in its thinking. The country is suffering enormously from the Pakistani Taliban, and this may be a way to get off the hook," said Ahmed Rashid, a Lahore-based expert on the Taliban and on Afghanistan-Pakistan relations. "Pakistan still exerts some influence on the Afghan Taliban, but Kabul will be extremely wary of Pakistani bias. It is a very tricky situation."

U.S. officials are watching the evolution of Pakistani thinking with interest.

"What this is really about is whether the Pakistanis want to be part of the problem or part of the solution," said one American diplomat who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, who met with Afghan President Hamid Karzai in Turkey this week, said there is an urgent need for peace talks. Echoing Karzai's comments about the Taliban being "sons of the soil," Zardari said that if insurgents are "reconcilable and want to give up their way of life, a democracy always welcomes them back."

The real key players

The key Pakistani players in this drama are not civilian leaders but the army and especially the Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI), which once sponsored the Taliban, worked closely with the group when it ruled Afghanistan in the late 1990s and reportedly has continued to assist Taliban leaders in exile after the regime was overthrown by U.S.-backed Afghan forces in 2001.

Rashid said the Afghan militants have been chafing under the Pakistani agency's efforts to control them. Other analysts said Pakistan's influence on the Taliban waned years ago, when the militia's leaders ignored Islamabad's pleas to spare the historic Bamiyan Buddha statues and to turn over al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to the Americans.

But the analysts also said that with so many Taliban leaders and their families based in Pakistan, their relations with that nation are still close -- perhaps too close for officials in Kabul, who have seen their fledgling postwar democracy torn apart by renewed conflict and hundreds of terrorist attacks in the past several years.

In a newspaper interview with McClatchy published this week, a former Pakistani intelligence official described the Taliban as "big-hearted" and extremely loyal to Mohammed Omar, the movement's fugitive leader. He called Omar a reasonable, patriotic man who has no desire to ruin his country. "He's the only answer," the officer said.

Omar has vehemently rejected any suggestion of talks, and experts said the Taliban forces, which are now active in 33 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces, feel confident they can outlast the international military presence. Some analysts who favor talks said they doubt rank-and-file Taliban members could be weaned away from the cause with promises of jobs and money, a pillar of the U.S. and Afghan reintegration proposal.

Other Afghan insurgent leaders have hinted at a more open outlook. A close aide to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a fugitive former militia leader who now opposes the West, told a meeting in the Pakistani city of Peshawar this week that Pakistan can "play a major role" and even achieve a "breakthrough" by brokering an Afghan peace process.

A unique relationship

Several military experts said that although Pakistan's longtime relationship with the Taliban has put it in a unique position to promote negotiations, it could also undermine them. They said the country must prove to Afghanistan and the world that after years of trying to manipulate Afghan politics, it now wants to take a constructive and neutral stance.
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"Pakistan needs to reassure Karzai and the Americans that it wants to play a very different role this time," said Talat Masood, a retired Pakistani general and analyst in Islamabad, the capital. "The Taliban should welcome Pakistan as an interlocutor if they are willing to compromise, but if the ISI overplays its hand, it could upset a very delicate situation."

Officials at the Pakistani foreign ministry could not be reached for comment on the issue this week, nor could army spokesmen. But some analysts said that by offering to help resolve the Afghan conflict, Pakistani officials are hoping chiefly to bolster the country's stature and security -- possibly at the expense of its next-door rival India, which has established a robust presence in Afghanistan.

"Pakistan's role could be crucial, but it will not do this for free. It will only facilitate these talks to protect its national interests," Rashid said. "It will demand its pound of flesh."

Special correspondent Haq Nawaz Khan in Peshawar contributed to this report.
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Karzai seeks Saudi, Pak role in Afghan peace


LONDON: Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Thursday called for Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to play their roles in establishing peace in the war-torn country. “We ask all neighbours, particularly Pakistan, to support our peace and reconciliation endeavours.” The Afghan government also invited Taliban to a peace council of elders as part of efforts to find a way out of a conflict, which is trying the patience and resources of Afghanistan’s Western allies. “We must reach out to all of our countrymen, especially our disenchanted brothers, who are not part of Al Qaeda, or other terrorist networks, who accept the Afghan constitution,” Afghan President Hamid Karzai told the conference. “We wish them to come,” Afghan government spokesman Hamid Elmi said.
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i think instead of foolishly denying the role and influence of taliban, had the Americans engaged them from Day one and talked to them , we would not have been in this state that we are in today. Afghanistan might have settled down and a little bit of money to improve their infrastructure , would not have been a burden on the American govtt. Instead after a decade of blood shed we are back to where we were.
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Valid and realistic points Sir but unfortunately US defence industry needs battlefields every now and then to cash in new orders. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan all have one thing in common: one winner, US' mighty defence industry.
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India softens stand on negotiating with Taliban


Saturday, 30 Jan, 2010

NEW DELHI: India is willing to back efforts to seek peace with Taliban to stabilise Afghanistan, foreign minister S.M. Krishna said, indicating a softening of stand towards the group.

“We are willing to give it a try,” Krishna told the Times of India in an interview published on Saturday.

“If the Taliban meets the three conditions put forward – acceptance of the Afghan constitution, severing connections with al Qaeda and other terrorist groups and renunciation of violence, and are accepted in the mainstream of Afghan politics and society, we could do business.”

Krishna’s comments come after ministers from 60 countries met in London on Thursday to endorse a plan to win over Taliban foot soldiers with cash and jobs in a renewed effort to turn the tide in the eight-year-old war..

While accepting the reality of the new plan on the Taliban, Krishna made clear the Indian discomfort with the group, saying its fundamental assessment of the Taliban remained unchanged.

“We consider them to be terrorists who have close links with the al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups,” he told the daily.

“We are next door and our experiences make it difficult for us to differentiate between good or bad Taliban,” he said, adding the West saw the group “from far away”.

Besides trying to lure away Taliban fighters from the insurgency, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has also offered to hold talks with the top leaders of the Taliban. The Taliban have not yet responded to his latest appeal.
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London summit


Saturday, 30 Jan, 2010

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Afghan President Hamid Karzai (R) shakes hands with Britain's Foreign Minister David Miliband (2nd R) as Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown (L) and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon (2nd L) applaud him during the Opening Session of the Afghanistan Conference in London. –AFP Photo/Matt Dunham

Is peace with the Taliban really possible? Going by what transpired in London on Thursday, the Afghan government and its western allies believe that a negotiated settlement is indeed the way forward.

The idea, in essence, is to divide the insurgents in Afghanistan by winning over a bloc of ostensibly war-weary leaders and luring foot soldiers with promises of jobs. It is said that many low-level fighters joined the Taliban for reasons that were more economic than ideological in nature and may lay down arms if given a viable alternative. Mr Karzai, for one, seems convinced that “disenchanted brothers” can be accommodated in the mainstream if they renounce violence and sever links with Al Qaeda. Then there is the perennial talk of wooing ‘moderate Taliban’ over to the government’s side. The problem is, do such people exist? And two, did the London summit on Afghanistan signal a bold new approach or offer a blueprint for the US-led coalition’s exit strategy?

Without discrediting the peace initiative in any way, the hurdles that lie ahead must be highlighted. It is clear that neither the Taliban nor Isaf are currently in a position to win the war in Afghanistan. What is more significant though is that the militants enjoy the upper hand right now, not the Afghan government and its international allies.

An olive branch at this stage may be seen by the Taliban as the West’s (read America’s) admission that the best it can achieve is a stalemate. This in turn may lead the militants to lie low while some colleagues defect to the other side and strike when the coalition forces feel that Afghanistan is stable enough for Isaf to leave. If that happens Afghanistan, and the region as a whole, could be back to square one.

If a UN envoy’s meeting with the ‘Quetta shura’ — apparently called at the latter’s request — is indicative of battle fatigue among sections of the Taliban, it is also no secret that the West wants out as quickly as possible. Consider this: There is talk of handing over full control over a number of provinces to the Afghan army and police by early 2011 while Mr Karzai feels his country needs 15 years of foreign military ‘help’. True, the US is stressing that talks with the Taliban will be accompanied by a surge in attacks on those unwilling to come to the negotiation table. But can the Taliban be so weakened in a year’s time that they can be dictated to from a position of strength? For now, what we have is just talk about talks.
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'Pakistan must play bigger role in Afghanistan'


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"There will be no peace in the region unless Pakistan carries its share of responsibility," said German Chancellor Angela Merkel. –Reuters (File photo)

BERLIN: Pakistan should be more closely involved in solving the Afghan conflict, said German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in a newspaper interview due to be published on Sunday.

"There will be no peace in this region unless Pakistan carries its share of responsibility," Merkel told German weekly Welt am Sonntag.

Faced with an insurgency by indigenous Taliban allied with the Afghan militants, Pakistan wants a peaceful Afghanistan. It is viewed with deep suspicion in Kabul, however, because of its ties to the Taliban, whom Pakistan backed through the 1990s.

"For a comprehensive solution, we need a much greater involvement of Afghan authorities and the inclusion of neighbouring countries, in particular Pakistan," Merkel said.

Germany has said it is committed to boosting troop levels in Afghanistan and nearly doubling civilian aid to create the conditions to start a withdrawal from next year.

But Merkel has refused to set a date for the withdrawal of troops, saying this could encourage the Taliban to lay low for a while and then launch a big attack.

"A withdrawal without reaching our goals and a unilateral German pull out would not be a handover of responsibility but an act of irresponsibility," she said.

Polls show that a sizeable majority of Germans favour an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan.

According to NATO figures, Germany had 4,280 soldiers in Afghanistan as of December last year. –Reuters
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"There will be no peace in the region unless Pakistan carries its share of responsibility," said German Chancellor Angela Merkel. –Reuters (File photo)
Easy for her to say.....

What more do you expect us to do Angie?

Just remembered a famous quote by someone.....
“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.”


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Easy for her to say.....

What more do you expect us to do Angie?
Stop supporting the Taliban! That is what the world expects.
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