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Old 06-21-2010, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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India’s DRDO Accuses Armed Forces of Favouring Imported Weapons


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Tejas LCA is among the list of India’s delayed defence programmes.
Prime Minister sees need for improved co-operation to speed up deliveries

Amid India’s recent positive news regarding its indigenous defence technology, such as the additional order for Arjun tanks, the Ministry of Defence and the country’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) exchanged blows in a general dispute on the delays in procurement programmes. After the DRDO was criticised for various delays in defence projects, the organisation’s chief, V K Saraswat, defended the DRDO’s performance and pointed to alternative reasons for these delays.

In the presence of India’s Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, the head of the DRDO recently made a strong statement calling for responsibility to be shared by all involved parties, the DRDO, the Armed Forces and private industry partners. He accused, in particular, the Armed Forces of preferring the procurement of existing, foreign solutions over indigenously developed and manufactured defence systems. “The services also must understand that while the temptation may be overwhelming to field proven, state-of-the-art imported systems, they (domestic industry) too have a role to play in the economic and industrial growth of the country. No foreign system can be customised to completely address our long term requirement,” he said, according to DD India.

Echoes from the other side of the divide

So far, the official response to this accusation has been rather low-key. Among the few reactions is a statement by a serving Lt.Gen., cited by 8ak, saying: “There may be merit in what the DRDO chief is saying in terms of dependence on weapons imports, but then it is because of the incompetence of Indian Defence PSUs [Public Sector Undertakings – Ed.] like DRDO, HAL etc. that the Armed Forces are forced to import military hardware to keep its inventory in shape.” The unnamed officer underlined his criticism by opening old wounds: “Had we not taken three decades to develop the Arjuns, there would have been no place for the Russian T-90s in the Army, as by now even the improved Mark-II version would have been developed. But for the DRDO to say that we should not import and wait for them to deliver is ridiculous if the security of the nation is threatened.” (See also 8ak - Indian Defence News)

Referring to the DRDO chief’s statement, another unnamed IAF officer told the Indian news service: “The belief that the Armed Forces import because of the kickbacks involved has tarnished the forces’ reputation among the public. As a matter of fact, we import only because DRDO takes unacceptable time to develop military hardware. Therefore, by the time equipment is inducted into the forces the GSQRs [General Staff Qualitative Requirement – Ed.] on which the product is developed become irrelevant and the product obsolete as other nations develop more advanced technology.”

Instead of adding to the recriminations, government officials have mostly identified a general requirement to speed up development and called upon scientists and those in charge of research and development to improve their efforts and performance, in particular, in terms of time. The Prime Minister said during the National Technology Day on which DRDO’s Saraswat made his statement: “In many areas we have moved fast, but our competitors have often moved faster. It is a fact that our current level of self-reliance in defence R&D (research and development) is less than our capabilities and it needs to be stepped up significantly.” Urging the DRDO to work closely with the Armed Forces and industry, Manmohan Singh added: “We should be able to acknowledge and learn from our setbacks.”

The Prime Minister’s statement is in line with an earlier speech by the Indian Defence Minister, Shri AK Antony, at the 34th DRDO Directors’ Conference in February, which addresses and challenges the DRDO in a more direct way: “DRDO must not fritter away [government] resources and needs to do some ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking. On its part, DRDO will have to ensure that it retains its relevance in the face of an increased role for the private sector and fast-paced technological changes.” The defence minister added that the organisation “must also realise that it is not doing business in an age of monopoly and thus, needs to be open, receptive and to innovate in these changed times and circumstances.”

In a written statement to members of the Parliament of India early this month, the Defence Minister laid out the delays and increases of costs of prominent defence programmes. These include the Tejas light combat aircraft (4 years delay), the development of a naval light combat aircraft (more than 4 years delay), the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (more than 15 years delay) as well as the engine for the light combat aircraft (14 years delay). According to the Minister, “The reasons for delay in completion of the above projects and their cost escalation are due to technical / technological complexities; sanctions imposed by technologically advanced countries and various control regimes; the increase in scope of work in terms of creation of more infrastructure, test facilities and their maintenance; change/enhancement in user requirements during development; deviations/failures during testing; extended and long-drawn user trials; etc.”

DRDO in Transformation

A solution, however, to the obvious structural problems in Indian defence procurement seems difficult to identify and to implement. Being convinced that the DRDO has no choice but to be globally competitive, the Defence Minister announced a restructuring plan in mid-May to transform the DRDO “in form and substance” in an effort to create a greater Armed Forces-DRDO-industry interface.

The Defence Ministry’s statement explains: “The key measures include the establishment of a Defence Technology Commission with the Defence Minister as its Chairman, de-centralisation of DRDO management, making DRDO a leaner organisation by merging some of the DRDO laboratories with other public funded institutions with similar discipline, interest and administrative systems, engagement of an eminent Human Resource (HR) expert as consultant to revamp the entire HR structure of DRDO, and the establishment of a commercial arm of DRDO.”

The official statement, which can be read in detail at defence.professionals | defpro.com, further addresses key development and procurement programmes: “The decisions also include continuation of the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) for design and development of combat aircraft, continuation of the Kaveri aero-engine programme, development of MBT Arjun Mk-II and Akash Mk-II by DRDO and selection of industry partners by DRDO through a transparent process by evolving a suitable mechanism.”

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Can one blame Armed Forces? DRDO doesn't have a good reputation or means to design and produce world standard weapons yet. Many of ongoing projects are considered a saga of poor quality or total failure; best example is the LCA which is often labeled as "Late Coming Aircraft" in media.

If DRDO wants to compete with International market, she should not expect favourism but enhance competency and quality of their products.
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Can one blame Armed Forces? DRDO doesn't have a good reputation or means to design and produce world standard weapons yet. Many of ongoing projects are considered a saga of poor quality or total failure; best example is the LCA which is often labeled as "Late Coming Aircraft" in media.

If DRDO wants to compete with International market, she should not expect favourism but enhance competency and quality of their products.
Selma, DRDO has its share of failures but every organization has its share of failure when developing new weapon systems,,,LCA is late agreed but if you look at it..it fastly approaching to get operational clearance..and also DRDO's Arjun out classes T-90 in comparitive trials ..Arjun was termed as a failure by the Army and it was up on DRDO insistance and Def minister interference that compelled Army to do comparitive trials and look at the outcome...also DRDO devalops Mayawi EW suits which is going to be in Israels F-35 ..and also there are SAMs like Akash who performed well and now getting ready to be inducted in the Army and Airforce.and also our balistic missiles are also sucessful and ready to be inducted...so all DRDO weapons is total failure is not correct at all..

As for forces they still happy with the foreign maal because of the commissions..Indian organizations don't offer them any bribe..its the reason they prefer foreign weapons rather than Indigenous..If MTCR was not implemented i have a strong feeling that Army should have written off Agni and Prithvi as total failures
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Look the simple truth is this.......if you can't provide what is needed WHEN it is needed then it is a failure. There are probably the usual South Asian corruption issues but people would look at these deals in detail.
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Its all about timing and budget indeed. One can build a state of the art weapon in thirty years but what use is it if its a dead born baby, obsolete and over budget. Planning is an important factor in defence, the LCA was designed to replace Mig-21 ten years ago, yet IAF is forced to look abroad for a competant replacement. Akash was overdue and rejected, so was Arjun. The list is long but l think I made my point.
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I think you guys are not keeping abreast of the latest happenings.

Akash has received orders worth several billion dollars, Arjun has proved its worth and has been inducted. LCA is going to fly in IAF colors soon enough.

DRDO has provided India several strategic technologies in several areas like radars, communications, missiles and the list goes on.

It has had its failures and challenges but one needs to look into the reasons for that and correct them, not throw the baby with the bath water.

The very fact that many Pakistanis know more about DRDO and ISRO than about their own entities suggests they must be doing something right. ;)
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I think you guys are not keeping abreast of the latest happenings.

Akash has received orders worth several billion dollars, Arjun has proved its worth and has been inducted. LCA is going to fly in IAF colors soon enough.

DRDO has provided India several strategic technologies in several areas like radars, communications, missiles and the list goes on.

It has had its failures and challenges but one needs to look into the reasons for that and correct them, not throw the baby with the bath water.

The very fact that many Pakistanis know more about DRDO and ISRO than about their own entities suggests they must be doing something right. ;)
Dude no offence but you just look silly with posts like that. Spending huge sums on small numbers just to save face is not what most of us would call success.

It's the old standby routine....pride before logic
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Dude no offence but you just look silly with posts like that. Spending huge sums on small numbers just to save face is not what most of us would call success.

It's the old standby routine....pride before logic

Keysersoze what you meant by spending huge sums on small numbers??IA has ordered Akash missile worth 2.5 billion dollars and IAF is also ordered further 750 of them...More and more ingeniously developed weapons has been selected by the armed force only if they contest against the foreign maal and proove their worth and also Devalopment of the Akash MKII has been started and DRDO didnt even ask for any fund from the government for it..They are sure that they can develop weapons with the funds allowed..this shows how much confident they are now...Initial failures are a part of every devalopment..Tejas and Arjun were the first of its kind devaloped in India..Delay is natural..I am sure when they devalop MCA they dont need this much time..
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Dude no offence but you just look silly with posts like that. Spending huge sums on small numbers just to save face is not what most of us would call success.

It's the old standby routine....pride before logic
And frankly you look like a petty fanboy when you let your prejudice get the better of you when it comes to India.

The results are there for al to see. Just don't worry about our "huge sums", worry about what happens if China dumps you.

I know what success to you looks like, mere survival by hanging on the coat tails of kaffir powers in the face of "vastly superior" and "much bigger" India. There is no end to your insecurities and there is nothing I can do to help it, no one can. ;)
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