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Wednesday, October 28, 2009, The Washington Times

Brahma Chellaney

The India-China relationship has entered choppy waters because of a perceptible hardening in the Chinese stance. Anti-India rhetoric in the state-run Chinese media has intensified, even as China has stepped up military pressure along the disputed Himalayan frontier through frequent cross-border incursions. Beijing also has resurrected its long-dormant claim to the northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, nearly three times as large as Taiwan.

The more-muscular Chinese stance clearly is tied to the new U.S.-India strategic partnership, symbolized by the nuclear deal and deepening military cooperation. As President George W. Bush declared in his valedictory speech, "We opened a new historic and strategic partnership with India."

The Obama administration, although committed to promoting that strategic partnership, has been reluctant to take New Delhi's side in any of its disputes with Beijing. This has emboldened China to up the ante against India, with the Chinese Foreign Ministry employing language like "we demand" in a recent statement that labeled the Indian prime minister's visit to Arunachal Pradesh a "disturbance." The Communist Party's official newspaper, the People's Daily, after asking India to consider the costs of "a potential confrontation with China," ran another denunciatory editorial recently on New Delhi's "recklessness and arrogance."

New Delhi has hit back by permitting the Dalai Lama to tour Arunachal Pradesh and announcing an end to the practice of Chinese companies bringing thousands of workers from China to work on projects in India. And in a public riposte to Beijing's raising of objections to multilateral funding of any project in Arunachal, India has asked China to cease its infrastructure and military projects in another disputed region - Pakistan-held Kashmir.

The present pattern of border provocations, new force deployments and mutual recriminations is redolent of the situation that prevailed 47 years ago, when China - taking advantage of the advent of the Cuban missile crisis, which brought the world to the brink of a nuclear Armageddon - routed the unprepared Indian military in a surprise two-front aggression. Today, amid rising tensions, the danger of border skirmishes, if not a limited war, looks real.

Such tensions have been rising since 2006. Until 2005, China was eschewing anti-India rhetoric and pursuing a policy of active engagement with India even as it continued to expand its strategic space in southern Asia, to New Delhi's detriment. In fact, when Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao visited India in April 2005, the two countries unveiled six broad principles to help settle their festering border dispute. But after the Indo-U.S. defense-framework accord and nuclear deal were unveiled in quick succession in subsequent months, the mood in Beijing changed perceptibly. That gave rise to a pattern that now has become commonplace: Chinese newspapers, individual bloggers, security think tanks and even officially blessed Web sites ratcheted up an "India threat" scenario.

A U.S.-India military alliance has always been a strategic nightmare for the Chinese, and the ballyhooed Indo-U.S. global strategic partnership triggered alarm bells in Beijing. The partnership, though, falls short of a formal military alliance. Still, the high-pitched Indian and American rhetoric that the new partnership represented a tectonic shift in geopolitical alignments apparently made Chinese policymakers believe India was being groomed as a new Japan or Australia to America - a perception reinforced by subsequent arrangements and Indian orders for U.S. arms worth $3.5 billion in just the past year.

Clearly, New Delhi failed to foresee that its rush to forge close strategic bonds with Washington could provoke greater Chinese pressure and that in such a situation, the United States actually would offer little comfort. Consequently, India finds itself in a spot.

For one thing, Beijing calculatedly has sought to pressure India on multiple fronts - military, diplomatic and multilateral
. For another, the United States - far from coming to India's support - has shied away from even cautioning Beijing against any attempt to forcibly change the territorial status quo. Indeed, on a host of issues - from the Dalai Lama to the Arunachal dispute - Washington has chosen not to antagonize Beijing. That, in effect, has left India on its own.

The spectacle of the president of the most powerful country in the world seeking to curry favor with a rights-abusing China by shunning the Dalai Lama during the Tibetan leader's Washington visit cannot but embolden the Chinese leadership to step up pressure on India, the seat of the Tibetan government in exile. Mr. Obama also has signaled that America's strategic relationship with India will not be at the expense of the fast-growing U.S. ties with Beijing.

The Obama team, after reviewing the Bush-era arrangements, intends to abjure elements in its ties with New Delhi that could rile China, including any joint military drill in Arunachal or a 2007-style naval exercise involving the United States, India, Australia, Japan and Singapore. Even trilateral U.S. naval maneuvers with India and Japan are being abandoned so as not to raise China's hackles. As his secretary of state did in February, Mr. Obama is undertaking an Asia tour that begins in Japan and ends in China - the high spot - while skipping India. In fact, Washington is quietly charting a course of tacit neutrality on the Arunachal dispute.

Yet Beijing remains suspicious of the likely trajectory of U.S.-India strategic ties, including pre-1962-style CIA meddling in Tibet. This distrust found expression in the People's Daily editorial that accused New Delhi of pursuing a foreign policy of "befriending the far and attacking the near."

Left to fend for itself, New Delhi has decided to steer clear of any confrontation with Beijing. As the prime minister of the Tibetan government in exile, Samdhong Rinpoche, has put it: "For the past few months, China has adopted an aggressive attitude and is indulging in many provocative activities, which are being tolerated by Indian government in a very passive manner."

Still, even as it seeks to tamp down tensions with Beijing, New Delhi cannot rule out the use of force by China at a time when hard-liners there seem to believe that a swift, 1962-style military victory can help fashion a Beijing-oriented Asia.

Having declared that America's "most important bilateral relationship in the world" is with Beijing, the Obama team must caution China against crossing well-defined red lines or going against its self-touted gospel of China's "peaceful rise."

Brahma Chellaney is professor of strategic studies at the independent, privately funded Center for Policy Research in New Delhi and the author of "Asian Juggernaut: The Rise of China, India and Japan" (HarperCollins 2006, with a new U.S. edition scheduled for release in January 2010).


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The cost of Confrontation with India: Bejing, Shanghai and all other Han cities turn into glassbowls!!! And no more chicom rise to world power status.
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All-round expansion of India's arms against the desire to take the initiative to China?




Author: Ge Chuan-hong
Source: Die Zeit
Source Date :2009-11-26
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India not only wish to become a permanent member of UN Security Council to confirm the status of their own political power, but also constantly upgrading their own military strength to support their own image of a big country. It recently launched a comprehensive expansion of the pace of armaments, not only plans to buy British aircraft carrier under construction, also plans to order large quantities of US-made large-scale transport. India also plan to publish the procurement of 126 high-performance aircraft, and its military space program has also been carried out quietly. United States President Barack Obama from Asia back to the White House, welcomed the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Because Obama in Japan Asia policy speech did not mention India, but also gives the strategic significance of China trip, which give India produced a "second-rate reduced to U.S. policy in Asia countries" sense of loss. In order to appease India, the United States specially erected in the White House South Lawn of India-style tent to hold a wedding banquet in honor of Singh.

Manmohan Singh to Washington, in addition to the United Nations a "permanent" problem hope that the U.S. supported the request, there are billions of dollars worth of defense contracts.

India also seems to be expanding its armaments and strengthening the military power as a way to win one of great power status, and thus respond to the rise of neighboring China.

Send more troops to the border has reached hundreds of thousands of...

Channeling on the Dalai Lama's visit to "Arunachal Pradesh" triggered the Sino-Indian diplomatic dispute has yet to subside when the Sino-Indian border, India has quietly deployed a large number of troops to strengthen the defense forces. According to Indian media reports, India will be within 4 weeks of so-called "Arunachal Pradesh" (China southern Tibet) to deploy the newly formed, the number of 1.5 million people in the 56th Division.

At the same time, the Indian military has also asked India's northeast and Jammu and Kashmir state to deploy 300 light tanks, and require the destruction of 3,000 meters with light tanks, armored vehicles and within the shelter of the strike capability. Moreover, in the next 12 to 18 months will be in the "Arunachal Pradesh" re-deployment of a division of troops.

For the Indian side of the border of the frequent moves, the latest issue of "Time" magazine that the Indian move would undoubtedly have been regarded China as "provocative" behavior, so that a deeper hostility between the two countries. The magazine pointed out that China and India the world's population accounted for 40% of the total population, the length of 3,500 km border between the two countries, all have nuclear weapons, once the renewed disputes, will no doubt be a disaster for all mankind.

Surprising is that India is still a lot of the media to advocate in India to "Do not forget national humiliation, and warned that China" surge "can restore the confidence of our citizens."

The Department of International Politics, Fudan University, Dr. Shen Yi Weekly Times reporter noted that since 1962, India always had the mentality of a defeated nation, so the Indian hawks have repeatedly preach "to the Chinese Revenge" point of view, and in India a considerable market. ” He said: "The loser of the winners tend to have a natural psychological readiness and preparedness, this is also a kind of people can understand the emotions, it is clear that India should not let that feeling out of control."

Recently, a large-scale surge operations, are not the first time the Government of India and India send more troops to the disputed area. As early as June of this year, India send more troops to the Chinese border, 60000, followed by turn four Su-30MKI fighters deployed in northeast India near the Chinese border. As a result, India this year alone has been sensitive to the Sino-Indian border areas as many as thousands of people surge up.

Not only that, India is also trying to find an excuse to enhance border military forces, and took the opportunity to play up China's military threat. According to Indian media reported that, according to the report of the relevant departments of the Government of India, the light in 2009, China had been an "invasion" of western India, central and eastern parts of the territory of about 60 times.

At the same time, India, some irresponsible media also took the opportunity to incite hostility toward China, in India, without cause within the "China threat theory." Among them, "Indian Times" in a commentary article in the cry, "wake-up call it, China will dismember India.The "Hindustan Times" is even more shocking news, claiming that "the end of 2012 will be India."

Some analysts have pointed out that the Indian media from time to time create the Sino-Indian border dispute has two purposes: first, took the opportunity to send more troops to enhance the actual control of the disputed area, in order to increase bargaining chips in negotiations on the demarcation. Second, use the opportunity to purchase new weapons, the military's vested interests in India campaign, so that the military have more room for profit.

All-round expansion of India's arms

Send more troops to the Sino-Indian border when the large-scale, India has launched a comprehensive expansion of the pace of arms.

According to the British "Guardian" reported November 15, due to financial inability to support the massive military spending, the British decided to substantially reduce Navy and Air Force, plans to build the two "Queen Elizabeth" class aircraft carrier for a cut, while the maximum possible to buy family will be in India. It is reported that the carrier has been referred to as "British design and construction of ever size the largest and most powerful warships."

In fact, this is not the first time the British aircraft carrier sold to India, India is the only "virrat" aircraft carrier that is purchased from the United Kingdom, has been in service for half a century. Therefore, the Indian media that the purchase of the British national news of the advanced aircraft carrier, are widely reported to be concerned about the national security of India would comment on the significance of. India's large circulation, "India Daily" in a commentary article declared: "Obviously, the reasons for India to buy advanced aircraft carrier is to confront the threat of China in the Indian Ocean."

In addition, according to Indian media said the next 10 years, India will have at least two new aircraft carriers. Russia, one of which is the Severodvinsk shipyard converted 45000-ton, "Vikram Mathias" number, its predecessor, the Soviet Union, "Admiral Gorshkov" was medium-sized aircraft carrier, the Russian side has undertaken the most will soon be delivered in 2012 to use the Indian side. 。 Another one, it is designed and built by India's "Vikrant" class aircraft carrier. Reportedly, the carrier was started in 2008, plans launched in 2010.

According to the German defense network of experts November 9 reported that the United States, India also plans to buy a large number of large transport aircraft. Retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, according to the Indian Mu Ruizhan Raghuram said that India has begun the procurement of 1.7 billion U.S. dollars worth of C-17 "Globemaster" transport aircraft regarding talks with the United States, since the introduction of such a transporter would be a substantial increase in India the ability to transport soldiers.

At the same time, the Indian government also plans to open procurement to the international community 126 high-performance fighter planes. It is reported that the project is currently under intense bidding stage. New Delhi, India Research Center, director of policy options, a China expert Mohan Guruswamy recently wrote that a major reason for India's move is to build the depth of the Chinese hinterland attacking force in order to attack in the face of China's to provide more effective deterrent.

Indian Space military strategy had been put on the agenda. 。 According to "The Times of India" report, India will launch next year's first dedicated military satellite. From 2011 to 2012, the Indian Space Research Organization will launch the Indian Air Force and Army dedicated satellite. In this regard, head of the Indian Space Research Organization Nair has said that India is building a satellite network to improve the national security system, and this network plan by the seven satellites. By then, the network will be able to help the Indian military on the border areas, complex terrain region as well as effective monitoring of deep-sea areas.

For a series of ambitious military expansion of India's action, the U.S. Army War College Strategic Studies Institute (SSI), Professor Brian Haideruike recently released special report that in recent years, the world is watching China's military upgrade, in fact, the rise of India's military have been substantial - "In fact, India has a regional military power, into a global military power."

Against China would be unwise

All the military preparations in India operations, are all based on China as an imaginary enemy. Director, Center for South Asian Studies, Fudan University, Professor Zhang Guihong pairs of Die Zeit, told reporters: "In India, the rulers of thinking deeply rooted sense, China has been the competitor."

As India's neighbors, though in recent years, the Chinese government has always advocated peace talks, the principle of negotiated settlement and to promote strategies to avoid miscarriage of justice arising from the two countries due to hold a dialogue about the conflict. But the Indian side, always have the "revenge" mentality of the Chinese initiative to the table repeatedly negative and suspicion.

China and India are big developing countries, is the world's fastest-growing economies in the two countries. Even prophets predicted that by 20 years of this century, with the development of China, the world will become bipolar; and 50 years of this century, with the development of India, the world will become a tri-polar.

"Regrettably, some people in India but do not think so." At Fudan University, Dr. Shen Yi's view, enhance the Sino-US relations and strategic circumstances, India should see the win-win cooperation of the international situation, take the initiative to give up confrontation with China, and through peaceful negotiations with the Chinese border dispute to find solution to the problem, otherwise, on India's own development is also unfavorable.

During Obama's visit, India has been very concerned about public opinion. November 17, "Hindustan Times" and "The Times of India" and other mainstream media have reported prominently on the front page of the Sino-US summit. In particular, Sino-US "Joint Statement" referred to in South Asia, will the Indian media is very sensitive, that India has become the U.S. policy in Asia's second-tier countries.

However, the Indian media has also found that, although the U.S. has put China as the most influential Asian countries, but the United States is not away from India. On the contrary, Prime Minister Singh's visit on the 22nd of this month, the United States has held a grand banquet for him.

Carnegie Peace Foundation Fellow William J · Burns said: "The United States, seeking a healthy Sino-US relations, China's rise is required not to damage at the expense of other countries." He also believes, " On the other hand, it is also India's demand that India should be able to see this trend. because the confrontation for both sides would be very unwise. "

Source: http://www.chinaelections.org/Newsin...?NewsID=161359 (Trans. Via Google)




Very interesting article, it covers many Geo-Political and military strategic aspects and maneuvers being made by US-India-China in this strategic triangular paradigm. The article is written by a Chinese Analyst and provides an interesting Chinese point of view to the latest developments in regards to Sino-Indian tensions and strategic rivalry.
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Net Japan Times November 14 article, the original question: to escalate tensions in the Sino-Indian

Since the apparent hard-line attitude toward the Chinese side, Sino-Indian relations getting worse. China's official media have also strengthened the anti-India rhetoric, while the behavior of China, through cross-border dispute strengthens the Himalayan region, the military pressure. China has also reintroduced to the northeast India, Arunachal Pradesh (ie, southern Tibet region of China) and the issue of sovereignty.


China is clearly a tougher stance with the United States and India on a new strategic partnership, this relationship is based on the nuclear deal and further military cooperation for the signs.” As President Bush in his farewell speech, said: "We opened a new historic India strategic partnership."

Obama The Government has pledged to push forward such a partnership, but in India and China dispute the issue, it do not want to side with India.This makes the issue of China's more daring in India. Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the recent Indian Prime Minister to Arunachal Pradesh's statement on the use of "we demand that" such a word-xiang, and the Singh said the move as "stirring up trouble."

As a riposte, the Indian side to allow the Dalai Lama, to visit Arunachal Pradesh, and announced that Chinese companies are not allowed to re-take a large number of Chinese workers in India's project work. Directed against cross-border investment in China is opposed to any of the items involved in the attitude of Arunachal Pradesh, India is demanding that China stop in another disputed area - Pakistan-controlled Kashmir - in infrastructure and military projects.

Right now all kinds of border provocations, the new military deployment, as well as mutual accusations is reminiscent of the situation 47 years ago, when both sides of an attack by China defeated unprepared for a surprise attack in the Indian army.

This tension began in 2006. Before 2005, China has been to avoid the anti-India rhetoric and adopted a policy of positive engagement with India, although it is still the same time a strategic expansion in South Asia. China and India in April 2005 established the settlement of the political guiding principles for the border issue. However, in the next India-US defense framework agreement and the nuclear agreement was signed, the Beijing's attitude clearly changed.

Clearly, India has not foresee that its hurry to establish a close strategic relationship with the United States a move would lead to China to exert more pressure, but in this case, the United States will not actually give it much consolation. As a result, India finds itself in a dilemma in today.

The United States President Barack Obama has expressed such an idea, the United States will not sacrifice the development of Sino-US relations at the expense of the strategic relationship with India.
Can not find the backing of India has decided to avoid any conflict with China.

However, even if India is to try to defuse tensions with China, it also can not rule out the possibility of the use of force in China, because now China's hard-liners seem to think that, as rapidly as the 1962 military victory will help to shape a China-dominated Asia . (The author is Professor, Center for Policy Research in New Delhi, India Brahma Chellaney)

Is the source: China's Net Editor: Zhang Jie

Source: Japanese media: China to India significantly changed the attitude of tough (Trans. Via Google)




The article also address the topic discussed at another thread, http://pakistandefence.net/forums/ri...war-south.html
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"India always had the mentality of a defeated nation"



- Dr. Shen Yi, Dept. of International Politics, Fudan University.



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The Department of International Politics, Fudan University, Dr. Shen Yi Weekly Times reporter noted that since 1962, India always had the mentality of a defeated nation, so the Indian hawks have repeatedly preach "to the Chinese Revenge" point of view, and in India a considerable market. ” He said: "The loser of the winners tend to have a natural psychological readiness and preparedness, this is also a kind of people can understand the emotions, it is clear that India should not let that feeling out of control."

Source: http://www.chinaelections.org/Newsin...?NewsID=161359


Very critical point Dr. Shen Yi is making here, very note worthy.
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The cost of Confrontation with India: Bejing, Shanghai and all other Han cities turn into glassbowls!!! And no more chicom rise to world power status.
Just like they turned into glassbowls in 62

One should refrain from emotional outbursts. everyone sane person knows no one can afford even a limited war and India is not in a position to turn Chinese cities into glassbowls without taking the risk to see its own cities turning into the same.
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One should refrain from emotional outbursts. everyone sane person knows no one can afford even a limited war and India is not in a position to turn Chinese cities into glassbowls without taking the risk to see its own cities turning into the same.
What about the Pakistanis ???
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What about the Pakistanis ???
Did any member here claimed to turn Indian cities into glassblows :).

anyway it was a silly claim, if India or any other country in the region could afford a war then by now you would have either attacked us or BD.

harming China through war is just a day dreaming.
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anyway it was a silly claim, if India or any other country in the region could afford a war then by now you would have either attacked us or BD.
I was talking about emotional outbrust. By the way why should we attack BD. Daydreaming ???
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I was talking about emotional outbrust. By the way why should we attack BD. Daydreaming ???
Oh man keeping in view the blame game by India against BD for fomenting terrorism in India it could have been a possibility.
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