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Old 10-06-2009, 09:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is every Bangla-speaking poor Muslim in India Bangladeshi migrant?

By Mumtaz Alam Falahi, TwoCircles.net,

New Delhi: The attitude of government agencies, both central and state, particularly police gives the answer in positive. There is no denying the fact that illegal Bangladeshi migrants have infiltrated our country over decades. But it is also a fact that lakhs of Bangla-speaking poor Muslim residents of West Bengal have become internal migrants in search of livelihood over a period of time, and can be found in various states. The pity is that these Indian citizens are also treated as illegal immigrants though they have valid election IDs or ration cards issued by West Bengal government.

So far BJP leaders have claimed that there are several crore Bangladeshi migrants in India. Now the Central Government seems to have concluded that there are two crore illegal Bangladeshi migrants. A news report in October 4 issue of Indian Express says that according to estimates sent by state governments regarding number of illegal migrants from Bangladesh living in states, their population now constitutes two percent of India’s total population. It is an open understanding among governments and politicians that by Bangladeshi infiltrators they mean only Bangla-speaking Muslim migrants. The question is: if the government has enlisted Bangla-speaking Muslim residents of West Bengal also as Bangladeshi migrants. The attitude of government agencies towards these people again gives the answer in positive.

Like in other parts of the country, Bangla-speaking poor Muslim residents of West Bengal are in thousands in Delhi. Hardly a day passes when they do not face harassment – that ends up in extortion -- at the hands of law enforcing agencies. A petty crime or terror blasts and police pounce on their clusters thinking them as ‘natural’ perpetrators.

Prakash Vihar is a jhuggi-jhopri colony in New Delhi’s Rohini area. The colony has about 200 poor Muslim families from West Bengal. Their only source of income is rag picking. Almost all of them have valid proofs of their being Indian citizen – some possessing election IDs or ration cards from West Bengal while others have similar documents from Delhi. Yet they are vulnerable to khaki terror and are living at the mercy of the police. They are frequented with police raids; some young men are picked branding them as Bangladeshis and released only after their family coughs up money.

With Commonwealth Games in Delhi round the corner they are facing another round of police torture and harassment. A couple of weeks ago a police team pounded on them threatening to push them out to make the city ‘clean’ before the Games. While the area is not on the map of Games venues they are being harassed.

Hazrat Khan is living in the colony for seven years. He has election ID both from West Bengal and Delhi. Hailing from Birbhum district in West Bengal Khan earns from rag picking. “Though I have valid proofs of being Indian citizen police brand me Bangladeshi and harass me,” Khan tells TwoCircles.net. He lives here with wife and children while other members of his family – mother, sister, brother, uncle and others – are in Birbhum. Before this colony he lived in Amar colony area in the city. He came to Delhi 19 years ago.

Kanchan Khan, a man in mid-twenties, is also from Birbhum. He is living here with his family for seven years. He too is a rag picker.

Some of the residents of this colony are from Murshidabad. This is Jamruddin Khan. He left Murshidabad in West Bengal 15 years ago and first settled down near Yamuna River in east Delhi. He has been living in Prakash Vihar for seven years. He is also a rag picker. In support of his being Indian citizen he shows a ration card issued from West Bengal government.

Why do police ignore their valid proofs of citizenship and brand them as Bangladeshi? “Because they are poor and followers of Islam” says Pramod Kumar, general secretary of Green Flag Waste Workers’ Union. Kumar lives near the locality and has been working for welfare of these residents. He says Bangla-speaking Hindu residents of West Bengal are not treated as such.

Faisal Khan of National Alliance of People’s Movement, who is working with Pramod, is planning to organize a protest by Bangla-speaking people possessing valid proofs of citizenship before the Delhi police headquarters or National Human Rights Commission. On the fact that police reject their election IDs as fake, Khan said it is on the authorities to prove their allegation. It is easy for election commission to check genuineness of an election ID, Khan said.

The residents of the locality have a makeshift mosque in the middle of the colony. Faiz Ahmed, Imam of the mosque, says these residents hail from West Bengal. Police harass them as they do not catch big people and make money from them. Ahmed, himself from Uttar Dinajpur in West Bengal, has been rendering his services as Imam in the mosque for the last 10 months. Earlier he lived in Rajasthan.

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So if own Indian bengalis are in such a condition then what is the status of illegal Bangladeshis in India?
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been in india deli for an year.its surly hard to diffrentiate bangali and bangladesi, but i know all the bagger are bangladesi. They r ugly scar on delì. Hard step to be taken.
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And the hard step if taken who will vote for Indian politicians
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Jana,i think i had a talk with you on this issue once before.......but here it goes again-yes you are right,vote bank politics infested india with illegal bd-s being unofficially LEGALISED here for many years.......but that is history!.....nothing can be done to the old bd-s,but the ones who tried infesting our country,and my home state west bengal since the last 5yrs or so,are really having a hard and harsh time dealing with the now active police forces(with their spies around border towns and villages) here and the bsf........murshidabad district here,is the most infested part here........regarding the article-pathetic anti-india bogus propagonda filled s&it!
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been in india deli for an year.its surly hard to diffrentiate bangali and bangladesi, but i know all the bagger are bangladesi. They r ugly scar on delì. Hard step to be taken.
Has your f$$king country done a identity check to make sure they are Bangladeshi before labeling all poor Muslim as Bangladeshi?

You people can not even treat your own Hindus as same class with the existence all the sub human caste system yet taking about existence of Bangladeshis in Bharat. Why should any Muslim Bangladeshi would go to bharat when your country is not that well of from Bangladesh.

yes we are poor and you are not that rich either.
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Has your f$ country done a identity check to make sure they are Bangladeshi before labeling all poor Muslim as Bangladeshi?

You people can not even treat your own Hindus as same class with the existence all the sub human caste system yet taking about existence of Bangladeshis in Bharat. Why should any Muslim Bangladeshi would go to bharat when your country is not that well of from Bangladesh.

yes we are poor and you are not that rich either.
PFFFT did i hurt your feeling son ???

no i dont go by goverment stats , but i was part of team who conducted case study our self on yamuna pusta slum !!!!!

and we found out that 98% were Bangladeshi !!!!! almost all of them, and they breed children like dumping every next morning.

and btw- i dont treat people by religion so dont say "YOU". loool i am as much indian as much discussion worthy you are. so dont base all your indian hate towards me. i am not that generic indian you imagine.

muslim bangladesi do go to india- not just poor but rich also one of bangaladesi friend - she finished her studies from india. althought she was as bangladesi as much i am indian.

- btw - i never said you are poor -and india is rich . the poverty is almost same in both these countries - indian poor are in as much trouble as bangladesi poor.

but in delhi slum most baggers are bangladesi - because of vote bank they are not kicked out.

and its insane how - they are allowed to come in india- because india is already so poor that it cant feed its own people. and now this unwanted crop!!!!!
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Yes, the Bangladeshis may get to stay in India for some time till we resolve our political issues, they are still living here on borrowed time waiting to be escorted back with love and affection.

Some fools may believe that Indians can't force the politicians to change, they are in for a rude shock.
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Default It's not just about Banglas and Bangladeshis

This Bangla-Bangladeshi controversy reminds one of the Pak. Pashtun-Afghan Pashtun controversy.

When you have the same genetic lineage, and borders divide you, how does one decide which place you belong to.

Karachi and other major cities are filled with illegal Afghan nationals who have stayed back due to employment despite UN-backed repatriation programmes. It is difficult discerning who is a Pathan from NWFP and who is an Afghan.
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This Bangla-Bangladeshi controversy reminds one of the Pak. Pashtun-Afghan Pashtun controversy.

When you have the same genetic lineage, and borders divide you, how does one decide which place you belong to.

Karachi and other major cities are filled with illegal Afghan nationals who have stayed back due to employment despite UN-backed repatriation programmes. It is difficult discerning who is a Pathan from NWFP and who is an Afghan.
elmo delhi is friggin - 3000 mile- or so ------ away from bungladesh !!!! lol now thats crazy isnt it ? these bungladesi know where to move to get some moolah !!!!

if it was just for - cheap labor i think delhi dont have too big a problem - but when its about - terrorism and over crowding the city and illegal encrochment i think time to kick them out !!
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