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Old 09-14-2009, 09:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pakistan's female fighter pilots break down barriers


September 14, 2009

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Seven Pakistani women are trained to fly the country's F-7 fighter jets -- though none have seen combat so far.

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Pakistani fighter pilot cadets go through their paces at Risalpur air base in Pakistan.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- Six years ago an ad in the Sunday paper changed a young Pakistani woman's life and made aviation history.

The ad read: "Pakistan Air Force recruiting females cadets."

Back then Ambreen Gul was 20-years old and living in Karachi. Her mother wanted her to be a doctor. She remembers her reaction when she told her she wants to fly.

"She was like: 'You're a girl,'" says Gul. "How will you do it? How will you fly?"

The following day Gul took the first step in proving her mother wrong. She was among the first in line at the recruitment center.

For nearly six decades it was only men who had flown Pakistan's fighter jets. Today Gul is one of seven women who are trained and ready to fly Pakistan's F-7 supersonic fighter jets.

"This is a feeling that makes you proud and makes you humble also," says Gul.

Humility doesn't mean lack of confidence.

"We can do everything better than the men," explains cadet Nida Tariq.
"We're more hardworking, more consistent and more patient," adds cadet Anam Faiq.


To become a fighter pilot takes three years of training at the Air Force Academy in Risalpur, Pakistan, where the halls are lined with grainy black-and-white pictures of nearly six decades of male graduates who went on to fly for the Pakistan Air Force.

The training is often intensely physical. Here, equal opportunity means equal treatment.


If they are not good enough as per their male counterparts, we don't let them fly," says commanding officer Tanvir Piracha.


Some of Pakistan's female pilots wear hijabs. Others prefer to go without the Muslim headdress. Most say changing the misconception of Muslim women is just as important as serving their country.

"Islam gives equal opportunity to females. Whatever we want to do we can," says pilot Nadia Gul.

"To tell you the truth I've been given equal opportunity or I suppose more than men have been given," says Air Force cadet Sharista Beg.

Air Force officials say fighter pilots are playing a vital role in the fight against the Taliban. They're training in counterinsurgency, collecting aerial intelligence and targeting militant strongholds in the treacherous mountains of Pakistan's tribal region along the Afghan border. Ambreen Gul says her goal now is to fly in combat.

"I would give my life for my country," she says.

But women rarely fly in combat anywhere in the world and it's never been done in Pakistan. It's another barrier Gul plans to break.
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Neo watch this, That is why PAF stopped taking women for GDP, PAF spent 1 million $$ on each pilot and they all landed in transport.



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nice development
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Go girls......make us proud!
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Neo, My Lady.
All seven of them decided not to fly Fighters and all of them are now with VIP SQD and 6 SQD Chaklala. Because of these 7 women PAF stopped hiring women fighter pilots. Only 2 completed OCU and everyday they used to say we don't want to fly but their IPs were as bad as they were they made sure they complete the OCU after OCU there were sent to fighter SQD but they refused and the COAS made a decision which lead to a complete failure of the system. And now Young girls who have the passion are stuck because no more induction of female pilots. The rotten egg was Ambreen she qualified and then said no I don't want to fly Fighters which made PAF very upset spending all that money on training and the outcome Zero.

In our days back in the early 60s when you entered the academy they used to do a grading which meant you fly 10 missions and do a solo if not you are out it happens today as well but after a long period they should go back to the basics grading should be done in the first month so people who are not fit for flying or donot want to fly should be sent home.
The reason of her quiting on fighters she encountered an emergency and that was enough for her to say I am not doing it.
I just angry that 2 of them had the potential of becoming the first and them they decided not to.
There are a lot of reasons which played a negative role in this, A few things I will be candid about .
In our culture husbands don't take care of the children like in the west. All the fighter bases except Peshawar and karachi will hold there husbands with good jobs, rest of the bases they cant get a decent jobs.
Now on a serious note
during PMS you pull Gs and you will not wake up and after marriage they get pregnant they can't fly for 9 months after the delivery they cant fly for another 6 months , What is she going to do give the baby to the base commander and say feed him when he cries. She is on CAP or exercise and base calls her come back because munna needs milk or the OC flying is having a hard times changing the diapers. See these things are a reality and should have been thought before such a venture so PAF though well they said no so why not put them in Chaklala so for the rest of there lives they will stay in Transport and get married and the husband can get a job in Pindi or Islamabad.
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Well, if women are going to be encouraged to be inducted, then such services as creche, nannies (aaya) who can take care of the baby, feed them, etc. have to be provided at the bases.

Now the danger of a woman choosing her family life over her professional life is always there, throughout the world. I suggest that during interviews, such questions are asked of the future recruits, and any that do plan to marry soon not be put into the pilot training programme. They can do other ground based jobs if they want.

But some girl who really has a passion for flying, and the country, and assures of her committment, and undergoes psychological stress tests, should be inducted, with all teh support that she needs.
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Also,,,Murad Sahab..how pervalent is fligh fright with ordinary male recruits?

Are there instances, where they suddenly get scared or frightened during their first, or first few flights? And if so, are there ways of dealing with it?
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Waiting to see them riding the Fighting Falcon.

This initiative have changed the perception, thinking and ideals of many in Pakistan. i am sure they would prove equally lethal if put in combat.
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Now what Sir Murad has revealed is scary. i mean things like having a baby and PMS etc are universal truths and i think the high ups in PAF must have thought about it. It cant be that after 1 years of training the PAF comes to know that these girls would also have the above mentioned problems. The army also employs large number of women and they also have to face these kind of problems.

Lady doc have been living without their husbands and other women in the Services have been taking long leaves because of pregnancies, and i dont think that these should be a problem, atleast the latter one is inexcusable.

i know many officers in the Army (not talking of those who have civilian spouses) who are married with AMC Docs and have been living away from their wives/children because the wife gets posted elsewhere and the hubby is stuck at a different place. So i think the problem mentioned by Sir Murad as regards to hubby-wife living together may be is a new concept in the PAF. The Army is dealing with such problem since long.

But yes 'technical' problems such as those related to medical and physical sides definitely are more pronounced for a woman pilot as compared to those who work on ground.
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